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South Africa's President Jacob Zuma has said the police do not have a licence to kill, a day after a minister said officers should shoot criminals.

Mr Zuma stressed that the police must obey the laws which govern the use of deadly force.
His government is giving the police greater powers to use force against the criminals who have made South Africa one of the world's most violent places.
But this week's killing of a toddler by police has sparked a national outcry.
"No police officer has permission to shoot suspects in circumstances other than those provided for by law. The law does not give the police a licence to kill," Mr Zuma said in a statement.
Murder charge
Last month, he said the police should use "extraordinary means" to tackle the country's "abnormal crime problem".
The government is trying to reassure potential visitors that the country is safe ahead of next year's football World Cup.
On Thursday, Deputy Police Minister Fikile Mbalula said it was inevitable that innocent people would get caught in crossfire when the police tackled criminals.
And referring to what he called "incorrigible criminals", he urged the police to "shoot the bastards".
Three-year-old Atlegang Phalane was shot dead in Midrand, near Johannesburg, last Saturday as he sat in the back seat of a car next to his uncle.
The police officer is reported to have said that he thought the boy was carrying a firearm, though according to Moses Dlamini, from the Independent Complaints Directorate, no gun or object which could have been mistaken for a firearm was recovered from the car.
The officer has been charged with murder.

South Africa has one of the world's highest rates of violent crime with an average of 50 killings each day.

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Date: 2009-11-17 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
Yes, there is turmoil going on under the surface of the police transformation after the Scorpions unit was disbanded. In their helplessness to fight crime, the government think they should crack down on it harder, but this is only addressing the symptom rather than the root cause of the problem. Violence can only lead to more violence and there is a threat of entering a vicious circle. The solution to these problems is social, not authoritarian.
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Date: 2009-11-17 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
My explanation is that the Afrikaner community have a very old tradition regarding gun ownership. It dates back to the times of the Great Trek when they needed to defend themselves from various foes on their way inside the country.
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Date: 2009-11-17 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
I am glad that you are interested in the history of this country. Maybe you'll research some about the Bantu history too. There are many fascinating moments there and I don't mean just Shaka.
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Date: 2009-11-17 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
Of course.

George McCall: Boers And Bantu
Kairn A. Klieman: The Pygmies Were Our Compass
Roger B. Beck: The History of South Africa
Robert Ross: A Concise history of South Africa
Nigel Worden: The Making of Modern South Africa
W. D. Hammond-Tooke: The Bantu-Speaking Peoples of Southern Africa
Donald R. Morris: The Washing of the Spears
Alexander Wilmot: History of the Zulu War
Jeffrey B. Peires: The House of Phalo: A History of the Xhosa People
Leroy Vail: The Creation of Tribalism in Southern Africa

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